stohlquist xtract rescue pfd?

[Clif]

Looking at 1 of these... any bad news? Read the review

http://www.whitewater-rescue.com/suppor ... dstudy.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

wondering if any bad experiences. I used mine for real 2x this year, as well as played with, and know it is time to get a new one.

[BEubanks]

I have a one of the xtracts. Haven't had to use any of the rescue features so far. I'm generally satisfied. The foam is a bit stiff but I'd expect that to improve the more I wear it.

I'm curious about the need to replace your current vest. Did using it twice for rescue wear it out? Were there problems with its function? What kind do you currently have?

[ARzach]

I'm curious about the need to replace your current vest. Did using it twice for rescue wear it out? Were there problems with its function? What kind do you currently have?

I'm with him... Why is the vest needing replaced? I know I've used my Astral rescue vest hundreds of times (mostly play/practice) and don't see any signs that it needs replaced (other than the fact that it smells real bad!). I too am curious why you feel it should be replaced...

[Clif]

was a hand me down to start with. Not sure how old it is. I got it and was trying to decide if I wanted to drop the 100+ for one.... I need to.

shoulder straps do not stay tight. Stays on me so not a big deal... very faded so is it starting to weaken also???

The quick release works fine. Never used that for real.. just play/practise.

[BEubanks]

I don't know how closely fading links with weakening of the material, but I think you're right to be concerned. I might try some pulling, stressing of the fabric and see if gives way or keeps its integrity. If the latter, I'd keep using it. But I'd probably start saving my $ and doing some further research for the replacement to come . . .

On some jackets we had for our OBU class, the fabric gave way at the stress points where the straps attached. No serious fading, but the fabric certainly failed. One batch was still in warranty so got them replaced. Had to replace others without warranty help. I certainly wouldn't want to have my life or others depend on a life jacket without solidly attached straps.

[Clif]

I now have a lotus?? Saw the xtract on sale and was thinking it may work. Googling some more reviews. They also had pro creekers, just not as much on sale.

What were the ones that failed on you?

[BEubanks]

Extrasport. They weren't rescue vests. It was odd. I got two different models. The less expensive one outlasted the more expensive ones by far. Different fabric made the difference.

[Dave Thomas]

Looking at 1 of these... any bad news? Read the review
http://www.whitewater-rescue.com/suppor ... dstudy.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
wondering if any bad experiences.

I bought a Stohlquist PFD X-Tract-D early this year and I'm very happy with it. Earlier this month I attended one of Jim Simmons, the author of the pfd review you linked, Swift Water Rescue workshops so I would know how to properly use my new rescue vest. I highly recommend a taking SWR workshop if you haven't already. The skills that are taught are invaluable.
As for the X-Tract's performance, it's the most comfortable pfd that I've worn. At the SWR workshop I attended there were multiple rescue vests that students could try out. Even after trying on some of the other pfd's I was still the most comfortable in the X-Tract. I realize that there are other features to consider besides how comfortable a pfd is. However, a pfd only works if it's worn and I figured that the more comfortable it is the more I would keep it on.
If you're interested in "bad news" I've got a couple of corks with the X-Tract. It would be nice if the X-Tract's pocket was a little bigger. I find it hard to fit my pulleys, prusiks and other necessities into it. Also, I'm not keen on the Gripp-Loc material that is used for the pocket. The rubber coating has worn off at the pressure points. All-in-all though I would definitley recommend the Stohlquist X-Tract. Especially if you are getting a deal.

[BEubanks]

Absolutely get training in swift water rescue if you're going to wear a rescue vest. Your training may save my boat or life someday!!!

I carry prussiks, etc in a separate rescue kit in my boat. Pocket is reserved for camera. But I agree the pocket on the xtract is a little small.

Stohlquist offers quite a discount to ACA instructors. It may apply to ACA member in general, but you'll have to check the ACA site or directly with Stohlquist on that.

[Dave Thomas]

I used mine for real 2x this year, as well as played with, and know it is time to get a new one.

If you're a small to medium build (chest size 30-42 inches), Eric Esche is selling an Astral rescue life vest.
http://forums.arkansascanoeclub.com/vie ... =2&t=16430" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[RomanLA]

The Stohlquist Descent has a lot more storage room. I can fit my pin kit and camera in the pockets, although I usually just opt for a loop of webbing and biner.
http://www.stohlquist.com/dyn_prod.php?p=STO52311

[Dave Thomas]

I've heard good things about the Stohlquist Descent too. However, I've yet to try one out. I wonder if Clif kayaks, rafts, canoes? My concern being that if you pack the Descents nice big pocket full of stuff it my pooch out a little too far and interfere with an off side canoe paddle stroke. Merely a speculation though. Like I said, I haven't tried one out and the proof is in the pudding.

[Clif]

I wonder if Clif kayaks, rafts, canoes?

D. All of the above

So I would like the jacket to work with the rpm max. Canoeing is the buffy barge variety, primarily.

I have done a SWR class and go back over my books often to remember some of that stuff I never really use... but might? Seriously considered trying the instructor class out.

[Mike Gardner]

I have both the X-tract D and Descent and have used them both. The X-tract fits very well and the rescue release is easy to get to and activate. The Descent fits ok and the pocket doesn't get in the way of x-strokes, but then I don't pack it up like a kangaroo either. The release is off-set on the center right side and can be somewhat less accessible when the pocket is full. The Stohlquist discount is not for rec boaters. Fit is important, but all manufacturers products will fit you if you get the right size. I have worn pretty much every mfrs rescue vests and while some felt better, all would work in the water. My next rescue pfd is going to be the 26 lb flotation Patriot from MTI for big water. Swims good and x-strokes in my canoe are not affected.